Comments on: Abrams: Klingons And Carol Marcus

By: K. Harris

K. Harris — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:47:00 +0000

Is it just me or do the helmets remind anyone else of the Predators (those ugly aliens that wore masks in those AvP films/other movies). I hope Abrams doesn’t mess around with Klingons; they’re pretty fascinating as they already are. But, I’m sure he will. To the toilet with anything established…

By: Hoops

Hoops — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 04:19:00 +0000

The idea that Enterprise and JJTrek takes place in an alternate timeline created by the events of First Contact makes no sense. We’ve seen events in the 24th century that clearly take place after First Contact: Insurrection, Nemesis, second half of DS9, etc. If First Contact changed the timeline, how could Picard and co. have returned back home to their original timeline? How could any of these post-First Contact stories have taken place?

The only possible way out of this plothole is to claim that the original timeline was left intact and was unaffected by the events of First Contact, and it was this timeline that the Enterprise E returned to. But if that’s true, then the entire plot of First Contact makes no sense – if the future being created by the actions of the Borg was an alternate timeline, then nothing that was happening mattered. What was the point of the crew of the Enterprise stopping the Borg to save a future that wasn’t even theirs to begin with? They should have just re-entered the vortex and stayed in the original timeline.

By: wangleflap

wangleflap — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:30:00 +0000

ah, hello Mr Elton JohnS….. How’s the wig?

By: Rex_Hondo

Rex_Hondo — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:30:00 +0000

The difference, of course, is that boobs aren’t considered a sign of puissance like a Klingon’s ridges. I was thinking more along the lines of plate armor molded to look like exaggerated musculature, a not uncommon practice.

By: JohnS

JohnS — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:34:00 +0000

Yeah… but I’ve got a ten inch wang… and I’m gay… which means I’m a rock star and bang college boys every night… while wearing a Trek uniform… So “nerd” away…

By: ExSadNerd

ExSadNerd — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:32:00 +0000

now that is nerdy

By: Kang the Unbalanced

Kang the Unbalanced — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:43:00 +0000

Interesting retro-mindfuck there. Anything that erases or ignores Enterprise is perfectly fine with me. However…

It is established that Enterprise takes place in an altered timeline, where the Borg incursion has altered things, apparently drastically. The technology seen in Enterprise is more advanced than it should be given the era.

But;

The technology in the JJVerse, to with the Kelvin, is also more advanced than it should have been for 2230. Not to mention other differences, such as the stardates. This implies that either the timeline has been screwed with before, which it surely has, or…
JJTrek takes place in the Enterprise timeline.

Blech. Please, someone refute this. I beg you.

As a final note, I most wholeheartedly agree that the JJVerse, while exciting and chock-full of explosions and lens flares, is just another timeline branch. perhaps someday Spock Prime will come to his senses and prune it from the tree…

By: Gary

Gary — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:28:00 +0000

Why are there spoilers for the new movie in the headline for this article?

By: Kang the Unbalanced

Kang the Unbalanced — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:51:00 +0000

May I just interject at this point– Fuck Enterprise.
Despite the noble and valiant attempts of the Reeves-Stevenses which created some outstanding 4th season episodes, entire rest of the goddamned series, from the pilot on, was a total continuity clusterfuck.
Right, carry on then.

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:09:00 +0000

The events of Enterprise all take place after the events of First Contact… Without Picard and crew saving the past, and thus depositing a Borg there, there was no Enterprise… So, yeah, even though Nero’s incursion to the past doesn’t go back that far, we know other things have also changed.

Even though it’s not accurate within Trek, we should probably just accept that this Abrams’ adventure is really nothing more significant than one of those 10 Voyager episodes about Alternates Realities, and we should care about it as much as, I dunno, hell, as much as we cared about Harry Kim and Chakotay on that one episode where Voyager crashes into the icy planet… Yeah… I know… THAT MUCH… hard to believe for me, too.