Comments on: McFadden: Missed Opportunities

By: Guest

Guest — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 03:49:00 +0000

Yes, that is what I meant—it does not support the idea that she was fired for being difficult

By: JohnS

JohnS — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 03:22:00 +0000

Try learning to read – your first post said she wanted to leave… then you said she had disagreements with the staff and wanted to leave. I’ve said from the very beginning and in EVERY post – she was let go so the production staff could try something different with the character dynamics. As far as Gene R – that has nothing to do with Gates departure – so your inclusion of it is just your pathetic way to justify your nonsense. Anud in your most recent message you talk about how you clarified your position… interesting – because my position has been the same EVERY TIME. And perhaps you should listen to her interview that you claimed to see again. At no point does she say she was let go because she didn’t agree with their terms. So the mirror is pointing back at you dunce. Once again I ask – do you know how Hollywood actually works – because your posts indicate nothing but some generalized sense Hollywood is a tabloid and not a bottom line business.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:41:00 +0000

That Gene Roddenberry was a misogynist pig isn’t my opinion, it’s pretty commonly accepted. But, I’d think a scholar such as yourself would know that… Putting Majel Barrett as Number One doesn’t change everything else… If you really want to debate it, I can find plenty of quotes and specific documentation for it, but that’d be kind of ugly. I think most people accept that while Roddenberry was a visionary and was a humanitarian, he did have flaws… and womanizing and objectification of women was one of them. Sorry if that reality offends you. Secondly, “You said Gates didn’t get along with members of the production staff over her character – then you switch gears and say she disagreed – which is it?” Uhhhhhh, huh? I never switched at all. She didn’t get along with members of the production staff because she disagreed with them about her character. I don’t know what part of that is not clear to you, as I’ve stated it multiple times and in no uncertain terms… Frankly, at this point, given that quotation, I’m coming to the not-so-gradual conclusion that you’re an idiot. Nevertheless, I’ll soldier on….. I never said she didn’t like anyone. I said she didn’t get along with production staff. I later clarified that it was about the choices for her character… which I’ve seen video of her saying was the reason. You claim it was just about going in a different direction. From what I’ve directly seen, that’s just not true… Sure, did they decide to go in a different direction? Yes. After Gates McFadden and the writers couldn’t come to terms regarding her character. And yes, after that, Gene Roddenberry and any number of people with a vested interest in not appearing to be douchebags, glossed over the reality… A reality she has readily discussed… I’m sorry if, during your no-doubt excellent interview, she lied to you and glossed over it herself, but I tend to believe the video I’ve seen of her talking about her disagreements early on with producers over some guy on the internet who claims to be this, that, and the other, but is clearly rather unhinged… In the end, my advice is to step outside into the sun and get a couple friends in real life… You’ve clearly been caged for far too long… I await your next tantrum and set of juvenile insults while not understanding how A connects to B……

By: JohnS

JohnS — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:03:00 +0000

You called Gene Roddenberry a mysogynist pig… i didn’t know you knew him and could make a character evaluation. So right off the bat you’re full of crap. #2 – You said Gates didn’t get along with members of the production staff over her character – then you switch gears and say she disagreed – which is it? Vast difference saying someone didn’t like someone and left – and saying they left because they couldn’t reach an agreement. And then you accuse Gene Roddenberry of glossing over a situation – when Gates, Gene, and SEVERAL producers ALL said it was as simple as wanting to try something new in the character dynamics. So in the end – every name I called you was applicable because you’re obviously a tool yourself – or you just don’t read what you write.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:42:00 +0000

Hmmmm, let’s review… I don’t recall calling anyone an ass. I didn’t say you were delusional. I didn’t call you a dunce, nor numnutz… I certainly didn’t tell you to eat my cock. I didn’t call you a fool. And I don’t remember, but I don’t think I told you to live short and die horribly… So, maybe you need that mirror after all, chum.

By: JohnS

JohnS — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:48:00 +0000

Look in a mirror dude. You’re projecting your own insecurities and thoughts onto others.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:42:00 +0000

lol Wow… somebody is testy… But I’m probably reading too much emotion into your unhinged rant, I guess! LOL You should consider some help, chum. Blood pressure medicine or something, perhaps…

By: JohnS

JohnS — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:15:00 +0000

Obviously she had to be cajoled… who said she didn’t. She was let go from a job… would YOU just go merrily back? So I’m not exactly sure what relevance your statement has. It doesn’t support Mike’s statement at all that they fired her for being difficult. Which – by the way – they didn’t. Too many production personnel have given statements over the years that verify the basic truth… her contract was terminated when they wanted to go in a new direction… when their new direction didn’t work out the way they hoped, they returned to Gates…

By: JohnS

JohnS — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:30:00 +0000

Now you’re just being an ass. And trying to re-interpret what people say to fit into your delusion. Bottom line – several producers of the show and Gates McFadden herself have confirmed what happened. And its simply a matter of a creative staff not liking the direction of a character arc and wanting to try something new. You ascribe all this “emotion” to a very simple thing. Did you forget it’s show BUSINESS… Simple business decisions. And that was one of them. Try just doing a little research dunce instead of relying on innuendo. And as far as you saying “had she conformed to what they wanted…” Who the hell said that other than you… this had nothing to do with her altering her performance or bending her will. It was a creative decision. What don’t you get about that numnutz. So… eat my cock and try re-reading the past few posts. I’ve said the same thing several times now – and you’ve interjected nothing but rumor, what you “think happened” and a liberal dose of Roddenberry bashing. If you are older – then you are an old fool who obviously has no idea how Hollywood actually works. Live short and die horribly.

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:11:00 +0000

Whatever you say… lol So, which was it? When I suggested that she left because she and the producers clashed, you claimed that was untrue. When I said that the reason she was ultimately terminated was because she wasn’t willing to do what they wanted, you claimed that was untrue. In other words, anything that is said is untrue. That’s cool. I wasn’t aware that we were dealing with such an eminent light of the Star Trek world. I mean, jeez, you conducted an interview. Wow. I didn’t mean to insult or contradict your eminence. Then again, I don’t see what I could’ve said here that you wouldn’t have contradicted. Again, when I pointed out exactly what I’ve seen her say, namely that she left because she and the producers couldn’t agree on the direction of the character, you say no… even though you admit that when an actor and producers can’t agree and it leads to the non-renewal of a contract, that that’s them firing her… okay… And? Whether it was ultimately them who handed her the pink slip, or she was the one to walk out on them, the result is the same and from the same source: She was unhappy with what they wanted, and if she wasn’t going to give them that, they didn’t want her… Had she conformed to what they wanted, she wouldn’t have been let go in the first place. So, fine, if you want to argue that she got herself fired by arguing with Producers about her character, okay… but that’s the same thing unless you’re splitting hairs. But, since you’re such an old and wise sage, that can’t be the case… except I’m probably older than you, but feel free to act the fool some more… or to come out and say that I’m entirely wrong again because you knew Gates McFadden in a former life and she whispered in your ear just how great you were and how she was fired… lol whatever, loser.