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	<title>Comments on: Beltran: Being Vocal About Chakotay</title>
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		<title>By: Ensignahkinum</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/07/beltran-being-vocal-about-chakotay/comment-page-1/#comment-7064</link>
		<dc:creator>Ensignahkinum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Din,

Someone needs to go to your work and tell you what a piece of crap you are. My guess is someone already has, that is why you are here putting down someone else&#039;s life work. The &quot;Irony&quot; for an enlightened show, is that they have an a.zz like you for a fan. Maybe if you had been abused as a child, you&#039;d have something worthy to cry about. This is an article about an actor and about the tv show he was in. But, no, you had to come in and take a crap here, like you do in every other article you have read.  If you would have gone to conventions and listened to Beltran and Wang tell about how they were told to act stiff and military like, by Rick Berman, to play down their character, to make the actors playing the alien characters The Doctor, Tuvok, 7-of-9 seem more alive and real, you&#039;d know that the frustration they felt towards Rick Berman and Braga, Braga, who would hump 7-of-9, is earned.  

You need to get your burnt-out a.zz over to Star Wars and don&#039;t ever come back, we will be just fine with out you. Hurry, go, now, hurry, we&#039;ll mail your diapers to you, go, run!

~ahki out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Din,</p>
<p>Someone needs to go to your work and tell you what a piece of crap you are. My guess is someone already has, that is why you are here putting down someone else&#8217;s life work. The &#8220;Irony&#8221; for an enlightened show, is that they have an a.zz like you for a fan. Maybe if you had been abused as a child, you&#8217;d have something worthy to cry about. This is an article about an actor and about the tv show he was in. But, no, you had to come in and take a crap here, like you do in every other article you have read.  If you would have gone to conventions and listened to Beltran and Wang tell about how they were told to act stiff and military like, by Rick Berman, to play down their character, to make the actors playing the alien characters The Doctor, Tuvok, 7-of-9 seem more alive and real, you&#8217;d know that the frustration they felt towards Rick Berman and Braga, Braga, who would hump 7-of-9, is earned.  </p>
<p>You need to get your burnt-out a.zz over to Star Wars and don&#8217;t ever come back, we will be just fine with out you. Hurry, go, now, hurry, we&#8217;ll mail your diapers to you, go, run!</p>
<p>~ahki out</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/07/beltran-being-vocal-about-chakotay/comment-page-1/#comment-7058</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s hard to say with certainty. It&#039;s a chicken and egg problem; it seems equally possible that they seemed they like dull actors because they were supplied with dull characters and never given the opportunity to demonstrate their talents. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s hard to say with certainty. It&#8217;s a chicken and egg problem; it seems equally possible that they seemed they like dull actors because they were supplied with dull characters and never given the opportunity to demonstrate their talents. </p>
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		<title>By: Din</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/07/beltran-being-vocal-about-chakotay/comment-page-1/#comment-7043</link>
		<dc:creator>Din</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beltran and Wang are very stiff, un-emotive and boring actors. They don&#039;t shine. They don&#039;t have much talent. The reason Picardo, Russ and Ryan took center stage is that they were the ones with the talent. Beltran and Wang can complain and whine all they want, but the bottom line remains the same: They are the reason they failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beltran and Wang are very stiff, un-emotive and boring actors. They don&#8217;t shine. They don&#8217;t have much talent. The reason Picardo, Russ and Ryan took center stage is that they were the ones with the talent. Beltran and Wang can complain and whine all they want, but the bottom line remains the same: They are the reason they failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ste8572</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/07/beltran-being-vocal-about-chakotay/comment-page-1/#comment-7028</link>
		<dc:creator>Ste8572</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what he&#039;d think of what they did with Chakotay in &quot;Full Circle&quot; - turning him into a drunk. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what he&#8217;d think of what they did with Chakotay in &#8220;Full Circle&#8221; &#8211; turning him into a drunk. </p>
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		<title>By: AirElephant</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/07/beltran-being-vocal-about-chakotay/comment-page-1/#comment-6941</link>
		<dc:creator>AirElephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read one of the comments left behind, I think it was here, about Robert Picardo.  The original story was a humorous anecdote about how he hounded all of the series executives to get the role as the EMH in the Star Trek: Generations movie.  The commenter noted the difference between Picardo&#039;s more garrulous approach and Garrett Wang&#039;s more direct, confrontational approach.  The gist of it was that they felt that the more friendly approach bore fruit, whereas Wang&#039;s didn&#039;t.

I see Beltran and Wang as kindred spirits, though.  It was only a short way into Voyager&#039;s seven seasons that it became apparent that the writers, no doubt directed to by the producers, began to favor Picardo in the script.  He was often featured in many episodes, and given meatier and meatier roles to play.  Picardo made the role entertaining, and the writers took off with it.  One could say, though, that the role lent itself to a degree of levity whereas the roles of Kim and Chakotay did not.  The writers took a much more narrrow-minded approach to those characters, and that limited Beltran and Wang to roles that really went nowhere over seven seasons.

It just seems as though both Beltran and Wang were cast aside early in the series so that the writers could focus more on their &quot;favorites&quot; of The Doctor, Tuvok, and later in the series, Seven.  I can see how Beltran and Wang never felt that they were given the opportunity to shine.

EDIT:  Also, thinking about comments made years before by Ron D. Moore, it&#039;s pretty doggone clear that Brannon Braga is an egocentric a**.  It&#039;s not surprising that he favored Jeri Ryan&#039;s character, either, since he almost immediately began dating her.  (I am not blaming Ms. Ryan, who by all accounts is a warm and intelligent person, but rather using it as an illustration of how Braga seemed to approach casting and writing in an unprofessional way.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read one of the comments left behind, I think it was here, about Robert Picardo.  The original story was a humorous anecdote about how he hounded all of the series executives to get the role as the EMH in the Star Trek: Generations movie.  The commenter noted the difference between Picardo&#8217;s more garrulous approach and Garrett Wang&#8217;s more direct, confrontational approach.  The gist of it was that they felt that the more friendly approach bore fruit, whereas Wang&#8217;s didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I see Beltran and Wang as kindred spirits, though.  It was only a short way into Voyager&#8217;s seven seasons that it became apparent that the writers, no doubt directed to by the producers, began to favor Picardo in the script.  He was often featured in many episodes, and given meatier and meatier roles to play.  Picardo made the role entertaining, and the writers took off with it.  One could say, though, that the role lent itself to a degree of levity whereas the roles of Kim and Chakotay did not.  The writers took a much more narrrow-minded approach to those characters, and that limited Beltran and Wang to roles that really went nowhere over seven seasons.</p>
<p>It just seems as though both Beltran and Wang were cast aside early in the series so that the writers could focus more on their &#8220;favorites&#8221; of The Doctor, Tuvok, and later in the series, Seven.  I can see how Beltran and Wang never felt that they were given the opportunity to shine.</p>
<p>EDIT:  Also, thinking about comments made years before by Ron D. Moore, it&#8217;s pretty doggone clear that Brannon Braga is an egocentric a**.  It&#8217;s not surprising that he favored Jeri Ryan&#8217;s character, either, since he almost immediately began dating her.  (I am not blaming Ms. Ryan, who by all accounts is a warm and intelligent person, but rather using it as an illustration of how Braga seemed to approach casting and writing in an unprofessional way.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ensignahkinum</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/07/beltran-being-vocal-about-chakotay/comment-page-1/#comment-6932</link>
		<dc:creator>Ensignahkinum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 22:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do the same if things are not going the way they started out, or the goal imagined. I like that I am my own hero. I am able to say, if there is a conflict in my work, &quot;Hey, if you have issues with the way my work is being done, maybe I should not be the person doing this job!?!&quot; I know once I make that statement, it is time for me to start making plans to move elsewhere; the fun and gratification of working there are past. (Don&#039;t burn bridges, &quot;It&#039;s just time for me to move on&quot; :O)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do the same if things are not going the way they started out, or the goal imagined. I like that I am my own hero. I am able to say, if there is a conflict in my work, &#8220;Hey, if you have issues with the way my work is being done, maybe I should not be the person doing this job!?!&#8221; I know once I make that statement, it is time for me to start making plans to move elsewhere; the fun and gratification of working there are past. (Don&#8217;t burn bridges, &#8220;It&#8217;s just time for me to move on&#8221; :O)</p>
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