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	<title>Comments on: Star Trek Game Details Emerge</title>
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		<title>By: Kang the Unbalanced</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kang the Unbalanced</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nations/races protecting their borders, or their perceived borders, or their interests, can be pretty damn evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nations/races protecting their borders, or their perceived borders, or their interests, can be pretty damn evil.</p>
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		<title>By: AirElephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>AirElephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and as to the game?  Meh.  I&#039;ve rarely, if ever, found that games based upon movies (or in this case their universe) are any good.  They&#039;re generally just pretty cash-ins that get middling scores from the reviewers.  Maybe this one will be different, but I&#039;m certainly not adventurous enough to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and as to the game?  Meh.  I&#8217;ve rarely, if ever, found that games based upon movies (or in this case their universe) are any good.  They&#8217;re generally just pretty cash-ins that get middling scores from the reviewers.  Maybe this one will be different, but I&#8217;m certainly not adventurous enough to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: AirElephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>AirElephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe.  Well, I hate to get wrapped up in the &quot;moral equivalence&quot; thing, but Roddenberry did have a point.  If we interact with alien civilizations, how can we judge them based upon human values?  You&#039;re talking about civilizations that developed on entirely different planets, with their own, unique evolutionary history.  That&#039;s like judging a dog&#039;s morality.  A dog has no idea what human values are, nor are they particularly relevant.  They don&#039;t think like us and they don&#039;t look or act like us (unless we anthropomorphize).  How could we expect an alien culture, developed without any interaction with our own, to share a similar moral foundation?

Look at Stephen Hawking and Carl Sagan.   These men have pondered interactions with alien species and the conclusions have been that any contact would likely involve aliens treating us no differently than we treat an insect.  There&#039;s also question as to whether we could even effectively communicate, since not only our language but our entire way of perceiving things may be incompatible.

So while the &quot;Arena&quot; episode was perhaps simplistic, it&#039;s not unreasonable to assume that an alien species might not only have difficulty communicating effectively, but that their first instinct when confronted by an alien species might be to simply eliminate them.  Morality (good and evil) is a human concept and it&#039;s divorced from the reality of evolution.  In the world outside the human sphere, morality simply doesn&#039;t exist because there&#039;s no common standard to apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe.  Well, I hate to get wrapped up in the &#8220;moral equivalence&#8221; thing, but Roddenberry did have a point.  If we interact with alien civilizations, how can we judge them based upon human values?  You&#8217;re talking about civilizations that developed on entirely different planets, with their own, unique evolutionary history.  That&#8217;s like judging a dog&#8217;s morality.  A dog has no idea what human values are, nor are they particularly relevant.  They don&#8217;t think like us and they don&#8217;t look or act like us (unless we anthropomorphize).  How could we expect an alien culture, developed without any interaction with our own, to share a similar moral foundation?</p>
<p>Look at Stephen Hawking and Carl Sagan.   These men have pondered interactions with alien species and the conclusions have been that any contact would likely involve aliens treating us no differently than we treat an insect.  There&#8217;s also question as to whether we could even effectively communicate, since not only our language but our entire way of perceiving things may be incompatible.</p>
<p>So while the &#8220;Arena&#8221; episode was perhaps simplistic, it&#8217;s not unreasonable to assume that an alien species might not only have difficulty communicating effectively, but that their first instinct when confronted by an alien species might be to simply eliminate them.  Morality (good and evil) is a human concept and it&#8217;s divorced from the reality of evolution.  In the world outside the human sphere, morality simply doesn&#8217;t exist because there&#8217;s no common standard to apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Undead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Undead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagree, the Gorn were always pretty clear-cut bad guys to me.  The whole situation may have been a complete mess, and the Gorn may have legitimately been worried that outsiders were trying to mount an invasion of their territory, but instead of sending someone in to assess the situation or even delivering a simple communique to the outpost to the effect of &quot;HEY GUYS, WTF?&quot;, their solution was simply to move in and pre-emptively murder everybody.  This was one time when Roddenberry&#039;s kum-ba-yah stuff rang pretty hollow in my ears, &#039;cause there was clearly no moral equivalence between the Federation and the Gorn (it&#039;s difficult to imagine Starfleet taking the steps the Gorn did if the situation had been reversed).  If anyone was misunderstood, it was all the men and women stationed at Cestus III who woke up dead one morning without ever even understanding why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagree, the Gorn were always pretty clear-cut bad guys to me.  The whole situation may have been a complete mess, and the Gorn may have legitimately been worried that outsiders were trying to mount an invasion of their territory, but instead of sending someone in to assess the situation or even delivering a simple communique to the outpost to the effect of &#8220;HEY GUYS, WTF?&#8221;, their solution was simply to move in and pre-emptively murder everybody.  This was one time when Roddenberry&#8217;s kum-ba-yah stuff rang pretty hollow in my ears, &#8217;cause there was clearly no moral equivalence between the Federation and the Gorn (it&#8217;s difficult to imagine Starfleet taking the steps the Gorn did if the situation had been reversed).  If anyone was misunderstood, it was all the men and women stationed at Cestus III who woke up dead one morning without ever even understanding why.</p>
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		<title>By: Milojthatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milojthatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 06:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gorn were not straight villains.  Anyone who paid attention to that episode knows that they were mis-understood.  They were no more evil then any other nation/race protecting their boarders.  But count on JJ-Trek to skip past that and make them straight up evil.  Darn you JJ Abrams!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gorn were not straight villains.  Anyone who paid attention to that episode knows that they were mis-understood.  They were no more evil then any other nation/race protecting their boarders.  But count on JJ-Trek to skip past that and make them straight up evil.  Darn you JJ Abrams!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks decent.  I still want Elite Force 3 though.</description>
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