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		<title>By: The Little Review</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/06/retro-review-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-6274</link>
		<dc:creator>The Little Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize that an actor&#039;s opinion is not &quot;canon&quot; in the same sense as the series writers, but this is from my interview with Robinson from 2000:

&quot;Robinson&#039;s novel is structured as a letter from Garak to Dr. Julian Bashir - his best friend and longtime breakfast companion on Deep Space Nine. Much fan fiction about Garak speculates that his feelings for Bashir went beyond the platonic relationship depicted on television, a belief Robinson does not refute. Indeed, in A Stitch In Time, Garak has crushes on both men and women.

&quot;I loved that sexual ambiguity,&quot; Robinson states. &quot;I wanted to get away from our sexual prejudices. I thought, this is an alien! Who knows what alien sexuality is, if indeed there is strict heterosexuality or homosexuality, those delineations? That&#039;s something that I kept in the book. Though that was more interesting to me in the playing of Garak than the writing of it; this book is for kids too, so I chose not to get more explicit sexually because of that.&quot; 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that an actor&#8217;s opinion is not &#8220;canon&#8221; in the same sense as the series writers, but this is from my interview with Robinson from 2000:</p>
<p>&#8220;Robinson&#8217;s novel is structured as a letter from Garak to Dr. Julian Bashir &#8211; his best friend and longtime breakfast companion on Deep Space Nine. Much fan fiction about Garak speculates that his feelings for Bashir went beyond the platonic relationship depicted on television, a belief Robinson does not refute. Indeed, in A Stitch In Time, Garak has crushes on both men and women.</p>
<p>&#8220;I loved that sexual ambiguity,&#8221; Robinson states. &#8220;I wanted to get away from our sexual prejudices. I thought, this is an alien! Who knows what alien sexuality is, if indeed there is strict heterosexuality or homosexuality, those delineations? That&#8217;s something that I kept in the book. Though that was more interesting to me in the playing of Garak than the writing of it; this book is for kids too, so I chose not to get more explicit sexually because of that.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/06/retro-review-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-6172</link>
		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to your later comment, you took it to the edge! Kinda Voyager Threshold style... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to your later comment, you took it to the edge! Kinda Voyager Threshold style&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Zeorangerix</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/06/retro-review-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-6169</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeorangerix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How far do these comments go...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How far do these comments go&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Seventhbeacon</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/06/retro-review-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-6166</link>
		<dc:creator>Seventhbeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now I feel all weird.  As long as you know I don&#039;t hold a grudge over it, I kind of enjoy a good argument/debate.  Her use of the word does ruffle my feathers, but it really is such a small part of the review.

I didn&#039;t have much to add to the rest because, yeah, it was how I remember it... I remember really enjoying the Cardassian woman in this episode though, and she was such an even match for Quark (in a dueling personality sense).

I do agree with Zeo that she has a very strong.. I think the word I would use is &#039;reactive&#039; sense of feminism, and sometimes she points out a real interesting cultural immaturity about attitudes that went unquestioned (and some that still go unquestioned) when episodes were written.  Other times, I think she sees something that&#039;s not there, and I feel like I&#039;m witnessing a quixotic war against non-existent patriarchal repression in episodes or character depictions.

Not that society doesn&#039;t have these problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now I feel all weird.  As long as you know I don&#8217;t hold a grudge over it, I kind of enjoy a good argument/debate.  Her use of the word does ruffle my feathers, but it really is such a small part of the review.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t have much to add to the rest because, yeah, it was how I remember it&#8230; I remember really enjoying the Cardassian woman in this episode though, and she was such an even match for Quark (in a dueling personality sense).</p>
<p>I do agree with Zeo that she has a very strong.. I think the word I would use is &#8216;reactive&#8217; sense of feminism, and sometimes she points out a real interesting cultural immaturity about attitudes that went unquestioned (and some that still go unquestioned) when episodes were written.  Other times, I think she sees something that&#8217;s not there, and I feel like I&#8217;m witnessing a quixotic war against non-existent patriarchal repression in episodes or character depictions.</p>
<p>Not that society doesn&#8217;t have these problems.</p>
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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/06/retro-review-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-6163</link>
		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point is: it is. It is both correct in the non sexual sense, and regular readers will know Michelle&#039;s angle too. 
Get it now? Why it&#039;s a double entendre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is: it is. It is both correct in the non sexual sense, and regular readers will know Michelle&#8217;s angle too.<br />
Get it now? Why it&#8217;s a double entendre.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeorangerix</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/06/retro-review-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-6160</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeorangerix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can be, but aren&#039;t in this case!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can be, but aren&#8217;t in this case!</p>
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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/06/retro-review-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-6154</link>
		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is both can be right.

Shades of grey in our beautiful language, shades of grey. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is both can be right.</p>
<p>Shades of grey in our beautiful language, shades of grey. </p>
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		<title>By: Zeorangerix</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/06/retro-review-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-6151</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeorangerix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hostile, Michelle meant &quot;flirt&quot; sexually. You admit that. Listing off dictionary definitions and talking about different ways the word is used is irrelevant since her intent is not at all ambiguous.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hostile, Michelle meant &#8220;flirt&#8221; sexually. You admit that. Listing off dictionary definitions and talking about different ways the word is used is irrelevant since her intent is not at all ambiguous.   </p>
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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/06/retro-review-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-6148</link>
		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And FWIW I don&#039;t think you were really bitching, it&#039;s just I got into a corner in answering subsequent post. Because I was enjoying the talk of &#039;flirting&#039;, as it&#039;s an interesting word, and we know what Michelle means but it&#039;s interesting that it doesn&#039;t have to be construed that way and her word isn&#039;t completely unfair... even if we do know she has a personal bias.

But Zeorangerix is bitching, as he knows what it&#039;s about, knows what she means and still wants to come in and read and have a go.

Not sure if I&#039;ve made things more confusing now... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And FWIW I don&#8217;t think you were really bitching, it&#8217;s just I got into a corner in answering subsequent post. Because I was enjoying the talk of &#8216;flirting&#8217;, as it&#8217;s an interesting word, and we know what Michelle means but it&#8217;s interesting that it doesn&#8217;t have to be construed that way and her word isn&#8217;t completely unfair&#8230; even if we do know she has a personal bias.</p>
<p>But Zeorangerix is bitching, as he knows what it&#8217;s about, knows what she means and still wants to come in and read and have a go.</p>
<p>Not sure if I&#8217;ve made things more confusing now&#8230; <img src='http://www.trektoday.com/content/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Seventhbeacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seventhbeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amending - I misread your trollling clarification, and retract the first clause in the second paragraph I wrote ;)  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amending &#8211; I misread your trollling clarification, and retract the first clause in the second paragraph I wrote <img src='http://www.trektoday.com/content/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Cheers!</p>
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