Comments on: The six best Star Trek starship swan songs http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/ Daily Star Trek news Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Doctor Clu http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-13904 Doctor Clu Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:19:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-13904 I didn't realize the Defiant had been destroyed. Wow still reeling from that. I remember Enterprise (original) being destroyed had a similar effect on me and making a "Enterprise-A" did not start to fill the void for me until Star Trek VI. I would like to add that the USS Grissom in Star Trek III was a bit unsettling to me. What should have been a somewhat robust seemed to bite it really fast and I really felt for her crew. Despite what I would see as a weak design, we got to see this ship type in TNG where we saw no Constitution Class ships which obviously were a more robust design. [Correction, just found out from memory Alpha there were pieces of Star Trek III Enterprise used in the Wolf 359 shot, and another part of a Constitution made a cameo in Best of Both Worlds... but still doesn't count as a full on Constitution sighting to me.] I didn’t realize the Defiant had been destroyed. Wow still reeling from that. I remember Enterprise (original) being destroyed had a similar effect on me and making a “Enterprise-A” did not start to fill the void for me until Star Trek VI.

I would like to add that the USS Grissom in Star Trek III was a bit unsettling to me. What should have been a somewhat robust seemed to bite it really fast and I really felt for her crew. Despite what I would see as a weak design, we got to see this ship type in TNG where we saw no Constitution Class ships which obviously were a more robust design. [Correction, just found out from memory Alpha there were pieces of Star Trek III Enterprise used in the Wolf 359 shot, and another part of a Constitution made a cameo in Best of Both Worlds... but still doesn't count as a full on Constitution sighting to me.]

]]> By: Kang the Unbalanced http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-4975 Kang the Unbalanced Mon, 14 May 2012 14:10:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-4975 Now that's a very good point. It had weight, even if the destruction was offscreen. Now that’s a very good point. It had weight, even if the destruction was offscreen.

]]> By: Kang the Unbalanced http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-4972 Kang the Unbalanced Mon, 14 May 2012 14:09:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-4972 Meh. The Reliant being destroyed after being commandeered was a "so what?" on a par with the ships in "The Ultimate Computer" getting slagged. It's definitely nowhere near the top of the list. Meh. The Reliant being destroyed after being commandeered was a “so what?” on a par with the ships in “The Ultimate Computer” getting slagged. It’s definitely nowhere near the top of the list.

]]> By: Kang the Unbalanced http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-4969 Kang the Unbalanced Mon, 14 May 2012 14:06:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-4969 Ahh yes. I watched that crappy episode for the sole purpose of seeing Voyager destroyed, the crew killed, and Seven of Nine dissected. Fun times, fun times. Ahh yes. I watched that crappy episode for the sole purpose of seeing Voyager destroyed, the crew killed, and Seven of Nine dissected. Fun times, fun times.

]]> By: SJStar http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-4963 SJStar Sun, 13 May 2012 08:33:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-4963 I agree. I have a different reason though. When I first saw the USS Odyssey (NCC 71832) destruction episode my jaw literally dropped! (no internet spoilers in 1994.) The biggest thing was seeing the Captain and some of the crew, brimming with confidence, before their final journey. I was also taken by the sensitivity of the writers, who remove the non-essential crew of woman and children. It is also rumoured that it was a tribute to Apollo 13, as it was the name of the command module. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzARkU5l2JE especially at 2:30. [Note: The dramatic music and the closeups.] Other than Enterprise, the only other Galaxy destruction was the USS Yamota by a warp core breach. (TNG "Contagion") [Not mentioned by others here for some reason.] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1WtRpPG8C0 or better quality Japanese version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJaSPVI0CdY at 5:29 [Note: Again we see the dramatic music and the closeups.] I agree. I have a different reason though. When I first saw the USS Odyssey (NCC 71832) destruction episode my jaw literally dropped! (no internet spoilers in 1994.) The biggest thing was seeing the Captain and some of the crew, brimming with confidence, before their final journey. I was also taken by the sensitivity of the writers, who remove the non-essential crew of woman and children. It is also rumoured that it was a tribute to Apollo 13, as it was the name of the command module.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzARkU5l2JE especially at 2:30. [Note: The dramatic music and the closeups.]

Other than Enterprise, the only other Galaxy destruction was the USS Yamota by a warp core breach. (TNG “Contagion”) [Not mentioned by others here for some reason.] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1WtRpPG8C0 or better quality Japanese version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJaSPVI0CdY at 5:29 [Note: Again we see the dramatic music and the closeups.]

]]> By: hostile_17 http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-4957 hostile_17 Sun, 13 May 2012 07:22:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-4957 This is my first article for TrekToday since I reviewed Voyager and interviewed Enterprise cast members. So please don't throw around comments that you have no evidence for. I am a TNG/DS9/VOY fan boy thank you very much. Hell even the review above have two Enterprise D, Voyager, and the original Enterprise. I wrote it because I love Trek. Not proving your point. The Odyssey was included because I think it was pivotal for a couple of key reasons. One being that it introduced a race that would be pivotal in Star Trek lore, kicking off pretty much a five year arc, destruction of the Maquis (which would even be felt in Voyager), introduction of the Defiant etc. and they did this in a way which would resonate with TNG fans. Plus I think - welcome to be corrected if I'm wrong - it was the first time we'd seen enemies kamikaze into Federation ships to take them out. It showed a very different type of enemy for Star Trek - and one that is frighteningly more relevant to the world we live in today. That's why I included the Odyssey in my personal top six. This is my first article for TrekToday since I reviewed Voyager and interviewed Enterprise cast members. So please don’t throw around comments that you have no evidence for. I am a TNG/DS9/VOY fan boy thank you very much. Hell even the review above have two Enterprise D, Voyager, and the original Enterprise. I wrote it because I love Trek.

Not proving your point. The Odyssey was included because I think it was pivotal for a couple of key reasons. One being that it introduced a race that would be pivotal in Star Trek lore, kicking off pretty much a five year arc, destruction of the Maquis (which would even be felt in Voyager), introduction of the Defiant etc. and they did this in a way which would resonate with TNG fans.

Plus I think – welcome to be corrected if I’m wrong – it was the first time we’d seen enemies kamikaze into Federation ships to take them out. It showed a very different type of enemy for Star Trek – and one that is frighteningly more relevant to the world we live in today.

That’s why I included the Odyssey in my personal top six.

]]> By: Rick Obert http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-4954 Rick Obert Sun, 13 May 2012 03:48:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-4954 My God Bones, what have I done? What you had to do. What you always do. Turn Death into a fighting chance to live. My God Bones, what have I done?

What you had to do. What you always do. Turn Death into a fighting chance to live.

]]> By: fainodraino http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-4948 fainodraino Sun, 13 May 2012 02:48:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-4948 Just tired of all the DS9 fanboys/girls...they seem to run this website, which I generally like. BTW, I can't believe the Odyssey made the list...it's not even one of the regulars...it was on ONE episode. Just proving my point. Just tired of all the DS9 fanboys/girls…they seem to run this website, which I generally like.

BTW, I can’t believe the Odyssey made the list…it’s not even one of the regulars…it was on ONE episode.

Just proving my point.

]]> By: AntonyF http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-4942 AntonyF Sat, 12 May 2012 22:33:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-4942 That's definitely where my "I haven't seen most of TOS" disclaimer comes into play! I do want to watch some more TOS at some point - so will keep that one in mind. That’s definitely where my “I haven’t seen most of TOS” disclaimer comes into play! I do want to watch some more TOS at some point – so will keep that one in mind.

]]> By: AntonyF http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/05/the-six-best-swan-songs-for-star-trek-starships/comment-page-1/#comment-4939 AntonyF Sat, 12 May 2012 22:18:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=17122#comment-4939 Amen. If I was writing a general sci-fi article... well... may not need any other contenders in the list. :) Babylon 5's ending was awesome. Amen. If I was writing a general sci-fi article… well… may not need any other contenders in the list. :) Babylon 5′s ending was awesome.

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