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	<title>Comments on: Retro Review: Armageddon Game</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Clements</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Clements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 07:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is: DS9 becomes the series hardcore Niners love in season 3, though there are certainly fore-shadowings (Duet, Necessary Evil, etc). From other comments, i suspect that Michelle is as much a Niner as i am; but that she&#039;s struggling with these early, TNG-style episodes. They can be frustrating if you&#039;ve fallen in love with DS9 eventually became

(Of course for non-Niners, these more traditional episodes are the good stuff)

For the record, i have more time for Armageddon Game than Michelle does. It&#039;s an obvious narrative with obvious holes but the writers found a way to force O&#039;Brien &amp; Bashir together here. It works ok without being earth-shattering &amp; sets up better stories in the future</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is: DS9 becomes the series hardcore Niners love in season 3, though there are certainly fore-shadowings (Duet, Necessary Evil, etc). From other comments, i suspect that Michelle is as much a Niner as i am; but that she&#8217;s struggling with these early, TNG-style episodes. They can be frustrating if you&#8217;ve fallen in love with DS9 eventually became</p>
<p>(Of course for non-Niners, these more traditional episodes are the good stuff)</p>
<p>For the record, i have more time for Armageddon Game than Michelle does. It&#8217;s an obvious narrative with obvious holes but the writers found a way to force O&#8217;Brien &amp; Bashir together here. It works ok without being earth-shattering &amp; sets up better stories in the future</p>
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		<title>By: Groov99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Groov99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the Airplane reference.  But you forgot that at the end of the episode O&quot;Brien drinks coffee at the exact time that he would have been in the recording.  So the whole reason for the trip back was worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the Airplane reference.  But you forgot that at the end of the episode O&#8221;Brien drinks coffee at the exact time that he would have been in the recording.  So the whole reason for the trip back was worthless.</p>
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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
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		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She probably doesn&#039;t like the episodes that aren&#039;t very good.

A strange concept of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She probably doesn&#8217;t like the episodes that aren&#8217;t very good.</p>
<p>A strange concept of course.</p>
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		<title>By: ASM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the feeling you don&#039;t really like DS9 at all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the feeling you don&#8217;t really like DS9 at all</p>
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		<title>By: AirElephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>AirElephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the assessment, in that it was a fairly weak episode, but you have to also give the writers a bit of wiggle-room.  This was still early in the series&#039; run (Season Two) and I think they were still figuring out what to do with the Bashir character.  I think many would agree that Bashir was a pretty unpleasant fellow in the first season, where his arrogance and amorous pursuit of Dax were somewhat off-putting.  

I think this was the point at which they started experimenting with the Bashir/O&#039;Brien relationship in an attempt to soften Bashir&#039;s image and humanize him more. (It took a long time for me to really &#039;like&#039; the Bashir character.)  Having O&#039;Brien, who really disliked Bashir, gradually warm to him after some of these personal revelations was a fairly subtle way to help the audience accept Bashir better than they had up to this point.  To be fair, it&#039;d still be awhile before Bashir was warm and likable, but I think they eventually got there.

The one character that you mention, though, that I always felt was thinly written was Keiko.  This is a rare episode that allowed the actress to show that she really cared for, and understood, her husband.  The recognition of her husband&#039;s habit of drinking Raktajino (or was it coffee?) at a specific time of day struck me as something that only a woman who truly cared for her husband would remember.  I found that in most episodes, Keiko was more of a harridan who focused too often on O&#039;Brien&#039;s negative traits, so this was a welcome opportunity to see their affection for one another.  (I really did dislike the Keiko character, though.  O&#039;Brien may have been a man-child at times, but he was an incredibly loyal, devoted, and hard-working husband and too often Keiko would just shred him with biting comments.  Ugh.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the assessment, in that it was a fairly weak episode, but you have to also give the writers a bit of wiggle-room.  This was still early in the series&#8217; run (Season Two) and I think they were still figuring out what to do with the Bashir character.  I think many would agree that Bashir was a pretty unpleasant fellow in the first season, where his arrogance and amorous pursuit of Dax were somewhat off-putting.  </p>
<p>I think this was the point at which they started experimenting with the Bashir/O&#8217;Brien relationship in an attempt to soften Bashir&#8217;s image and humanize him more. (It took a long time for me to really &#8216;like&#8217; the Bashir character.)  Having O&#8217;Brien, who really disliked Bashir, gradually warm to him after some of these personal revelations was a fairly subtle way to help the audience accept Bashir better than they had up to this point.  To be fair, it&#8217;d still be awhile before Bashir was warm and likable, but I think they eventually got there.</p>
<p>The one character that you mention, though, that I always felt was thinly written was Keiko.  This is a rare episode that allowed the actress to show that she really cared for, and understood, her husband.  The recognition of her husband&#8217;s habit of drinking Raktajino (or was it coffee?) at a specific time of day struck me as something that only a woman who truly cared for her husband would remember.  I found that in most episodes, Keiko was more of a harridan who focused too often on O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s negative traits, so this was a welcome opportunity to see their affection for one another.  (I really did dislike the Keiko character, though.  O&#8217;Brien may have been a man-child at times, but he was an incredibly loyal, devoted, and hard-working husband and too often Keiko would just shred him with biting comments.  Ugh.)</p>
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