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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/03/retro-review-the-siege/comment-page-1/#comment-3232</link>
		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have made no arguments. Not worth it.

I just don&#039;t read blogs/views that annoy/upset me. Way easier in life than all this frothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made no arguments. Not worth it.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t read blogs/views that annoy/upset me. Way easier in life than all this frothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Android</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/03/retro-review-the-siege/comment-page-1/#comment-3229</link>
		<dc:creator>Android</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 03:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t condescend, dear. It&#039;s ugly, and it betrays the lack of substance in your &quot;arguments&quot;, although I give them far too much credence to even call them that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t condescend, dear. It&#8217;s ugly, and it betrays the lack of substance in your &#8220;arguments&#8221;, although I give them far too much credence to even call them that.</p>
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		<title>By: DS9 Forever</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/03/retro-review-the-siege/comment-page-1/#comment-3223</link>
		<dc:creator>DS9 Forever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have liked a follow-up to this episode as well. &quot;Cardassians&quot; reveals the aftermath of the Cardassians supplying weapons to this Circle, but the Bajoran story is forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have liked a follow-up to this episode as well. &#8220;Cardassians&#8221; reveals the aftermath of the Cardassians supplying weapons to this Circle, but the Bajoran story is forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/03/retro-review-the-siege/comment-page-1/#comment-3217</link>
		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calm down dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm down dear.</p>
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		<title>By: Android</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/03/retro-review-the-siege/comment-page-1/#comment-3214</link>
		<dc:creator>Android</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 07:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inane? No, I don&#039;t think you know what the word means. 

Defending bigotry does not speak well of your own character. And it&#039;s not feminism I object to, it&#039;s bigotry, and it sneaks into Green&#039;s writing far too often. And no, I don&#039;t think that if I don&#039;t like the bigoted aspects of Green&#039;s writing that I should just &quot;leave&quot; without comment. If everyone took the attitude about social wrongs that you imply should be taken by those who disagree with Green, then things would never improve in society as a whole.

&quot;Just sayin&#039;&quot;, eh? What an ignorant reaction. Kind of like your pointless and unintelligent repetition of &quot;inane&quot;. &quot;Hostile&quot; is indeed a good nickname for you, as opposed to nicknames like &quot;rational&quot; or &quot;thoughtful&quot; or &quot;objective&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inane? No, I don&#8217;t think you know what the word means. </p>
<p>Defending bigotry does not speak well of your own character. And it&#8217;s not feminism I object to, it&#8217;s bigotry, and it sneaks into Green&#8217;s writing far too often. And no, I don&#8217;t think that if I don&#8217;t like the bigoted aspects of Green&#8217;s writing that I should just &#8220;leave&#8221; without comment. If everyone took the attitude about social wrongs that you imply should be taken by those who disagree with Green, then things would never improve in society as a whole.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just sayin&#8217;&#8221;, eh? What an ignorant reaction. Kind of like your pointless and unintelligent repetition of &#8220;inane&#8221;. &#8220;Hostile&#8221; is indeed a good nickname for you, as opposed to nicknames like &#8220;rational&#8221; or &#8220;thoughtful&#8221; or &#8220;objective&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/03/retro-review-the-siege/comment-page-1/#comment-3211</link>
		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 07:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was inane. Pointless, with no substance.

But anyway, if you don&#039;t like the views of a feminist why are you reading a feminist&#039;s review of Star Trek? Just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was inane. Pointless, with no substance.</p>
<p>But anyway, if you don&#8217;t like the views of a feminist why are you reading a feminist&#8217;s review of Star Trek? Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Android</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/03/retro-review-the-siege/comment-page-1/#comment-3208</link>
		<dc:creator>Android</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it wasn&#039;t inane at all. Green has some talent as a writer, but any reasonably sane person has to be completely sick of her bigotry and utter lack of objectivity. Every time a man-hating rant starts in one of her recaps, I just roll my eyes and throw my hands up.

Women, people of color, religious minorities, and anyone who is in a minority or underprivileged group, should have respect, equal opportunities, and pride in themselves completely independent of any minority/underprivileged status. Not in spite of, not because of, but independent of that status. We should all respect each others&#039; worth as individuals. And many groups have been oppressed and still need a hand up to overcome the long term results of unfair treatment. But that doesn&#039;t mean that EVERYTHING has to be viewed through the prism of reverse discrimination that Green so often succumbs to. 

It&#039;s sickening. It&#039;s the other side of the vile coin that is Ann Coulter. And I&#039;m begging her to stop it. Every male character is not evil. Every time a female character can&#039;t accomplish something, it&#039;s not inherently written that way because she&#039;s female. And good gosh, Kira Nerys is NOT the greatest Star Trek character EVER, unless viewed through a very narrow-minded and bigoted mindset. Enough already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it wasn&#8217;t inane at all. Green has some talent as a writer, but any reasonably sane person has to be completely sick of her bigotry and utter lack of objectivity. Every time a man-hating rant starts in one of her recaps, I just roll my eyes and throw my hands up.</p>
<p>Women, people of color, religious minorities, and anyone who is in a minority or underprivileged group, should have respect, equal opportunities, and pride in themselves completely independent of any minority/underprivileged status. Not in spite of, not because of, but independent of that status. We should all respect each others&#8217; worth as individuals. And many groups have been oppressed and still need a hand up to overcome the long term results of unfair treatment. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that EVERYTHING has to be viewed through the prism of reverse discrimination that Green so often succumbs to. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sickening. It&#8217;s the other side of the vile coin that is Ann Coulter. And I&#8217;m begging her to stop it. Every male character is not evil. Every time a female character can&#8217;t accomplish something, it&#8217;s not inherently written that way because she&#8217;s female. And good gosh, Kira Nerys is NOT the greatest Star Trek character EVER, unless viewed through a very narrow-minded and bigoted mindset. Enough already.</p>
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		<title>By: SJStar</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/03/retro-review-the-siege/comment-page-1/#comment-3205</link>
		<dc:creator>SJStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that is correct is that Michelle is obsessed with gender,  which seems to grate or rub the wrong way for almost every commentator. I honestly don&#039;t like this aspect of her reviews either.

In fairness, since the DS9 reviews started here, Michelle has toned down her rhetoric every second review, before then again. resetting things back to her obstinate ways.

I frankly can&#039;t wait to see what she says about Jadzia/Dax kiss with her previous spouse, nor of Cassidy&#039;s wedding to Sisko, or why Odo never morphs into a female humanoid or persona, or why the head from the Great Link has a female changeling fighting the war instead of a male, or Odo and Kira playing human gender roles, when all Odo has to do is turn into some magical light, and somehow either bliss or ensnare his way to Kira&#039;s heart. (WIth the latter two, you would logically think the all Changelings really should have any gender at all!)

Even more perplexing is why the Borg have genders at all, when they don&#039;t need to reproduce other than the assimilation of every weak suckers they encounter or conquer! Have a Queen Borg is even more bizarre when clearly they have no need for sexual reproduction. How about the Star Trek : Enterprise Season Three episode, Cogenitor, with three Vissian sexes needed to be used for alien reproduction.   

Another example is Data, who being a sexless android, decides to behave as a male, and even has all the equipment just in case he has to pleasure a female - and they did that very thing on the third ever episode on TNG! (They did the same sort of thing between Nurse Chapel and the emotionless Spock in &quot;The Naked Time&quot;, being the fourth ever episode of TOS.)  

Clearly, male and female roles in Star Trek have always been mixed up, mostly to get the viewer to think about the future evolution of the human and other galactic species. Sometimes it is meant to challenge our norms, and other times, it is just to chalk up more viewers of either titillate more pubescent males or fantasising females with scantily worn attire or good looking characters. Seven of Nine, or Jonathan Archer or T&#039;Pal instantly come to mind…

Perhaps the best example is switching of bodies and genders, such as Kirk and Dr. Janice Lester in the last TOS series &quot;Turnabout Intruder.&quot; (This was a desperate attempt to up the ratings in 1968, but the Series had already lost half of it viewers.) This was a parody of nearly everyones fantasy - a woman captaining a starship with ultimate authority and a man presumably trapped with all the frailties, weaknesses and unable to be taken seriously nor equally as with men. All the pubescent males could only think about was having the ultimate sex fantasy of a male trapped in a female body experiencing some higher plane of attention and higher levels of pleasure! 

Simply put. Gender manipulation of sexuality is/was paramount (sic/giggle) by the studio executive to keep up the ratings and the monies from the advertising revenue.

Thus &quot;...hope by the 24th century that some women actually take the opportunities in life, rather than spending their time inventing bounding boxes that don&#039;t really exist.&quot; is part of the fantasy that the producers are deliberately creating and manipulating the viewers with.

It is no wonder why some seem to be so obsessed with sexuality and gender. They have been manipulated and supposed to react that way!

Is this too, an inane comment??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that is correct is that Michelle is obsessed with gender,  which seems to grate or rub the wrong way for almost every commentator. I honestly don&#8217;t like this aspect of her reviews either.</p>
<p>In fairness, since the DS9 reviews started here, Michelle has toned down her rhetoric every second review, before then again. resetting things back to her obstinate ways.</p>
<p>I frankly can&#8217;t wait to see what she says about Jadzia/Dax kiss with her previous spouse, nor of Cassidy&#8217;s wedding to Sisko, or why Odo never morphs into a female humanoid or persona, or why the head from the Great Link has a female changeling fighting the war instead of a male, or Odo and Kira playing human gender roles, when all Odo has to do is turn into some magical light, and somehow either bliss or ensnare his way to Kira&#8217;s heart. (WIth the latter two, you would logically think the all Changelings really should have any gender at all!)</p>
<p>Even more perplexing is why the Borg have genders at all, when they don&#8217;t need to reproduce other than the assimilation of every weak suckers they encounter or conquer! Have a Queen Borg is even more bizarre when clearly they have no need for sexual reproduction. How about the Star Trek : Enterprise Season Three episode, Cogenitor, with three Vissian sexes needed to be used for alien reproduction.   </p>
<p>Another example is Data, who being a sexless android, decides to behave as a male, and even has all the equipment just in case he has to pleasure a female &#8211; and they did that very thing on the third ever episode on TNG! (They did the same sort of thing between Nurse Chapel and the emotionless Spock in &#8220;The Naked Time&#8221;, being the fourth ever episode of TOS.)  </p>
<p>Clearly, male and female roles in Star Trek have always been mixed up, mostly to get the viewer to think about the future evolution of the human and other galactic species. Sometimes it is meant to challenge our norms, and other times, it is just to chalk up more viewers of either titillate more pubescent males or fantasising females with scantily worn attire or good looking characters. Seven of Nine, or Jonathan Archer or T&#8217;Pal instantly come to mind…</p>
<p>Perhaps the best example is switching of bodies and genders, such as Kirk and Dr. Janice Lester in the last TOS series &#8220;Turnabout Intruder.&#8221; (This was a desperate attempt to up the ratings in 1968, but the Series had already lost half of it viewers.) This was a parody of nearly everyones fantasy &#8211; a woman captaining a starship with ultimate authority and a man presumably trapped with all the frailties, weaknesses and unable to be taken seriously nor equally as with men. All the pubescent males could only think about was having the ultimate sex fantasy of a male trapped in a female body experiencing some higher plane of attention and higher levels of pleasure! </p>
<p>Simply put. Gender manipulation of sexuality is/was paramount (sic/giggle) by the studio executive to keep up the ratings and the monies from the advertising revenue.</p>
<p>Thus &#8220;&#8230;hope by the 24th century that some women actually take the opportunities in life, rather than spending their time inventing bounding boxes that don&#8217;t really exist.&#8221; is part of the fantasy that the producers are deliberately creating and manipulating the viewers with.</p>
<p>It is no wonder why some seem to be so obsessed with sexuality and gender. They have been manipulated and supposed to react that way!</p>
<p>Is this too, an inane comment??</p>
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		<title>By: Responder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Responder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it wasn&#039;t.

My argument matches yours in rhetorical force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>My argument matches yours in rhetorical force.</p>
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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2012/03/retro-review-the-siege/comment-page-1/#comment-3199</link>
		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being pro something does not mean you are anti the opposite. It was an inane comment.</description>
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