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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/11/retro-review-dax/comment-page-1/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I recall correctly, she asked for too much money. 

At least, when I was at a con shortly before DS9 premiered, that is what the behind-the-scenes guy giving the presentation on DS9 insinuated when answering the &quot;Why no Ro?&quot; question. 

Sorry I don&#039;t remember who the source was. :) It was a few decades ago. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall correctly, she asked for too much money. </p>
<p>At least, when I was at a con shortly before DS9 premiered, that is what the behind-the-scenes guy giving the presentation on DS9 insinuated when answering the &#8220;Why no Ro?&#8221; question. </p>
<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t remember who the source was. <img src='http://www.trektoday.com/content/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It was a few decades ago. </p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/11/retro-review-dax/comment-page-1/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#039;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#039;s portrayed here.

As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#039;s concept. Like many of DS9&#039;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#039;s concepts and characters evolved.

I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#039;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man--he really doesn&#039;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet--that he&#039;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#8217;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#8217;s portrayed here.</p>
<p>As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#8217;s concept. Like many of DS9&#8242;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#8242;s concepts and characters evolved.</p>
<p>I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#8217;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man&#8211;he really doesn&#8217;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet&#8211;that he&#8217;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/11/retro-review-dax/comment-page-1/#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#039;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#039;s portrayed here.

As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#039;s concept. Like many of DS9&#039;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#039;s concepts and characters evolved.

I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#039;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man--he really doesn&#039;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet--that he&#039;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#8217;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#8217;s portrayed here.</p>
<p>As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#8217;s concept. Like many of DS9&#8242;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#8242;s concepts and characters evolved.</p>
<p>I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#8217;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man&#8211;he really doesn&#8217;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet&#8211;that he&#8217;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/11/retro-review-dax/comment-page-1/#comment-844</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#039;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#039;s portrayed here.

As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#039;s concept. Like many of DS9&#039;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#039;s concepts and characters evolved.

I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#039;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man--he really doesn&#039;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet--that he&#039;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#8217;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#8217;s portrayed here.</p>
<p>As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#8217;s concept. Like many of DS9&#8242;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#8242;s concepts and characters evolved.</p>
<p>I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#8217;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man&#8211;he really doesn&#8217;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet&#8211;that he&#8217;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#039;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#039;s portrayed here.

As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#039;s concept. Like many of DS9&#039;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#039;s concepts and characters evolved.

I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#039;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man--he really doesn&#039;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet--that he&#039;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#8217;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#8217;s portrayed here.</p>
<p>As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#8217;s concept. Like many of DS9&#8242;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#8242;s concepts and characters evolved.</p>
<p>I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#8217;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man&#8211;he really doesn&#8217;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet&#8211;that he&#8217;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#039;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#039;s portrayed here.

As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#039;s concept. Like many of DS9&#039;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#039;s concepts and characters evolved.

I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#039;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man--he really doesn&#039;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet--that he&#039;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story would not have worked very differently if they&#8217;d done it even a couple of seasons later, when Jadzia Dax is established as being a much more carefree and playful (and possibly promiscuous) individual than she&#8217;s portrayed here.</p>
<p>As it is, the story shows hallmarks of being written very early. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to learn that this was one of the original outlines of stories the producers had in mind when putting together the show&#8217;s concept. Like many of DS9&#8242;s first season stories, it sorts rather roughly with how DS9&#8242;s concepts and characters evolved.</p>
<p>I think the few insights into Sisko and Curzon&#8217;s friendship are possibly the most interesting parts of this story, so I agree that it would have been nice to see more about that as a lead-up to this. As it is, what we know is mainly by implication: Sisko feels so strongly about the Old Man&#8211;he really doesn&#8217;t know Jadzia Dax well enough yet&#8211;that he&#8217;s willing to fight hard for his successor&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.</description>
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		<title>By: Kozmikg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kozmikg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarification: Forbes was asked to play Ro on DS9 (like Meaney did with O&#039;Brien). She did not want to do a TV show so the Kira character was created instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification: Forbes was asked to play Ro on DS9 (like Meaney did with O&#8217;Brien). She did not want to do a TV show so the Kira character was created instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I read this review, but when I read; &quot;There’s nothing terribly wrong with the story, but the presentation seems quite formulaic and we don’t learn enough of substance about Dax nor about Sisko’s relationship with his onetime mentor.&quot;; I think the reviewer misses the point.  
 
Title of this episode is Dax not Sisko. It is again another character development story that presupposes that no one is aware of the future direction of the series. We are not supposed &quot;learn enough&quot; about Dax, who is a unique and complex character, and it assumes that the viewer knows nothing about Trill society. Surely it has to leave holes that can be filled in later stories.

The &quot;formulaic&quot; outline is really so very predictable.

&quot;Emissary&quot; was about Sisko
&quot;Past Prologue&quot; was about Kira
&quot;A Man Alone&quot; is about Odo
&quot;Captive Pursuit&quot; is about O&#039;Brian
&quot;Dax&quot; is about Dax
&quot;The Passenger&quot; is about Bashir (next episodes)
&quot;Moving Along Home&quot; and &quot;The Nagus&quot; is about Quark

Heavens, it is even they repeat various character episodes again - even until Series 2! The same kind of sequence was in Voyager and even TNG.
  
Studio producers have always understood that if series are going to survive it must form a positive attachment of the audience to the characters. Even in various spin-offs, the plot development nearly always tries to use the familiar then gravitate to the unfamiliar story lines. In DS9, they went out of their way to make sure to use as many plots and characters from the TNG stories to be all woven into DS9. I.e. Borg (to introduce Sisko), Q, Ferengi, Kilngons, Cardassians, etc. In turn, the used the same ideas into Voyager. I.e The Marquis (Ro Laren is the key the joins DS9, Voyager and TNG here; who was also mean to be in the role of Kira Nerys, but they could not get Michelle Forbes to to play Kira.)  

TV Series traditionally is really all about keeping viewer watching and engaging with the characters. If we care about one or two, or even the majority, of characters, we will keep the ratings up and the program will not be cancelled. (In DS9 this was more important as Babylon 5 that was shown at the same time was also competing for similar sci-fi audiences.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I read this review, but when I read; &#8220;There’s nothing terribly wrong with the story, but the presentation seems quite formulaic and we don’t learn enough of substance about Dax nor about Sisko’s relationship with his onetime mentor.&#8221;; I think the reviewer misses the point.  </p>
<p>Title of this episode is Dax not Sisko. It is again another character development story that presupposes that no one is aware of the future direction of the series. We are not supposed &#8220;learn enough&#8221; about Dax, who is a unique and complex character, and it assumes that the viewer knows nothing about Trill society. Surely it has to leave holes that can be filled in later stories.</p>
<p>The &#8220;formulaic&#8221; outline is really so very predictable.</p>
<p>&#8220;Emissary&#8221; was about Sisko<br />
&#8220;Past Prologue&#8221; was about Kira<br />
&#8220;A Man Alone&#8221; is about Odo<br />
&#8220;Captive Pursuit&#8221; is about O&#8217;Brian<br />
&#8220;Dax&#8221; is about Dax<br />
&#8220;The Passenger&#8221; is about Bashir (next episodes)<br />
&#8220;Moving Along Home&#8221; and &#8220;The Nagus&#8221; is about Quark</p>
<p>Heavens, it is even they repeat various character episodes again &#8211; even until Series 2! The same kind of sequence was in Voyager and even TNG.</p>
<p>Studio producers have always understood that if series are going to survive it must form a positive attachment of the audience to the characters. Even in various spin-offs, the plot development nearly always tries to use the familiar then gravitate to the unfamiliar story lines. In DS9, they went out of their way to make sure to use as many plots and characters from the TNG stories to be all woven into DS9. I.e. Borg (to introduce Sisko), Q, Ferengi, Kilngons, Cardassians, etc. In turn, the used the same ideas into Voyager. I.e The Marquis (Ro Laren is the key the joins DS9, Voyager and TNG here; who was also mean to be in the role of Kira Nerys, but they could not get Michelle Forbes to to play Kira.)  </p>
<p>TV Series traditionally is really all about keeping viewer watching and engaging with the characters. If we care about one or two, or even the majority, of characters, we will keep the ratings up and the program will not be cancelled. (In DS9 this was more important as Babylon 5 that was shown at the same time was also competing for similar sci-fi audiences.)</p>
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