Comments on: Quinto Comes Out

By: Mike DeLaney

Mike DeLaney — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:23:00 +0000

I HATE the following analogy, but I also HATE your method of trying to bully the general public… Homosexuality is clearly natural. Then again, attempting to mate with the youngest and most healthy & mature (meaning sexually viable for procreation) specimens is commonplace, right? Yet, we don’t allow pedophiles to traipse about consuming nubile flesh, do we? Even though it’s common, in fact mandatory, in the rest of the Animal Kingdom? I’m not saying homosexuals are pedophiles. However, the idea that just because a behavior exists in nature makes it good is just naive. All animals are what we would consider pedophiles… We reject that behavior as humans… but we didn’t always. Romans regularly married off their girls at 12 or 13. Would we do that now? No. Should we? No… why not? It’s natural! True, but nature isn’t what defines us… we define ourselves by molding nature to suit us… and in that same vein, society has, for all time, determined that homosexuality is undesireable and should be excised from human culture. If you want to change that perception, go for it… try… however, I caution against using the Animal Kingdom or Nature to provide you the out for that, as it just doesn’t hold up under scrutiny… as I hope I’ve illustrated. I don’t hate gay people, and I don’t think they have a choice of who they are attracted to. However, as with all humans, they have a choice in terms of their actions. Some people are naturally attracted to people they shouldn’t be attracted to. In some instances we accept that and maintain the social and cultural taboos. In other instances, people are trying to break down those walls. Personally, I think the cultural taboos are there for a reason. It was a cultural taboo to have a kid out of wedlock. Now it isn’t. The result? More kids born out of wedlock, resulting in more kids growing up without a stable set of parental influences. There was a taboo against divorce. Now there isn’t. The result, most marriages end in divorce. It’s such a joke now that marriage seems almost pointless to a majority of people… and the result is the destablization of our family units. If you really think the trajectory we’re on in eliminating our cultural taboos is a good one, I’m curious what gives you that idea… what evidence do you have that what you’re suggesting is good for any of us? The past half century is pretty good proof to me that the elimination of our cultural taboos has done nothing but make us animals that are narcissists.

By: Mike DeLaney

Mike DeLaney — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:10:00 +0000

What difference does it make if a chimp screws another chimp? Chimps also conduct warfare against other troupes of chimps, killing them all viciously. Should we go with that behavior because chimps do? Chimps will also cannibalize their children and enemies. Well, if it’s good enough for the animal kingdom, right? Wrong…. Stop using the Animal Kingdom as some kind of justification for behavior. Plenty of animal behaviors are unnacceptable in human society.

You know, the last time society in general turned this perverse, letting morality fly out the window, it took a thousand years of dark ages to recover. Let’s keep it up, we’re geometrically heading toward the fall of our empire faster than the Romans ever did. Kudos.

By: Mike DeLaney

Mike DeLaney — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:05:00 +0000

I never said it wasn’t. Then again, I guess it depends on how you see humanity. I see humanity as a constant struggle to overcome the baser instinct that nature has imposed on us. Animals also kill each other. The natural instinct of a human is pretty raw stuff. If you want to put homosexuality into the same category as animalistic rage, that’s on you. I specifically said that I didn’t want to debate whether it was part of nature to be homosexual… clearly it is… but what difference does that make in a human society? Humans instinctively want to steal, rape, kill, and do all the other horrible things that our gut and the survival instinct inside of us all demands. Being human, we overcome that as best we can. Sure, homosexuality is part of nature. That doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong. Nature also produces two headed snakes. Nature isn’t the be all end all of this debate. As The Doctor said in a recent episode of Doctor Who, good people don’t need rules. Good people just do what’s right… so, you should ask yourself why he has so many rules… same goes for Christians or anyone else. We establish rules against the most horrendous things, not because they’ll never happen, but because they would happen without us preventing them. Argue all you want that homosexuality is natural, I won’t disagree. Normal? Good? Preferred? Something that shouldn’t be discouraged? Nope…

By: Jas Friedman

Jas Friedman — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:29:00 +0000

Why is it wrong? Perhaps you can explain why in the animal kingdom lots of mammals, birds and other animals show homosexual behaviour.

By: Jas Friedman

Jas Friedman — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:28:00 +0000

Being straight is “normal”, yes, so I don’t know what you are getting at. If you are suggesting Quinto being gay is obvious and this shouldn’t be newsworthy I really hope you understand why he came out. You don’t get bullied for being straight, at least 99.99% of the time.

By: Jas Friedman

Jas Friedman — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:22:00 +0000

Being gay is a minority, but if you observe the animal kingdom same-sex sexual behaviour is common. Also read the news… it is a tragedy that young people are depressed and committing suicide because they are gay and they are bullied. Unfortunately it becomes too much for them. It is sad to see bullies everywhere and supposedly Star Trek is about optimism, tolerance and egalitarian.
Being gay shouldn’t matter. It shouldn’t. But it does because young gay people are bullied. They are depressed. They needlessly end their lives. We need to stop this homophobia. Life is precious.

By: Jas Friedman

Jas Friedman — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:15:00 +0000

Being a genius is not normal either, but they exist. Very tall people aren’t normal because you have lots of people being average and a small number of people being short… Homosexuality in the animal kingdom is common, if you actually tried to understand the natural world.

By: Guest

Guest — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:22:00 +0000

Drama queen from an Ivy league school, chances of being gay …. over 90%. It wasn’t a shock. Maybe they should do a movie Star Trek 2: Spock Comes Out on your Uranus

By: CaptainKirk

CaptainKirk — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:51:00 +0000

In other news, Chris Pine announces he is straight and dates hot chicks. Lots of men and women are very supportive of Chris. According to Chris, “This is hardest thing I had to do, I like girls … I can’t help it. If Shatner can hook up with a green chick, then certainly I can handle Hollywood girls.” Many other males have decided to announce they are straight.

By: Guest

Guest — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:45:00 +0000

Spock sucks cock. Vulcan taint grip.