Comments on: Braga: Favorite Episodes And Seven Of Nine http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/ Daily Star Trek news Sat, 25 May 2013 01:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: lola http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-674 lola Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:54:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-674 wow wow

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Anonymous Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:47:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-452 Agreed. You'll never find a bigger Braga fan than me, and I think he's right about VOY hitting its stride when Seven joined, but there's no defending him for dating Jeri Ryan. Huge, obvious breach of professional ethics. Agreed. You’ll never find a bigger Braga fan than me, and I think he’s right about VOY hitting its stride when Seven joined, but there’s no defending him for dating Jeri Ryan. Huge, obvious breach of professional ethics.

]]> By: Voyager53 http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-435 Voyager53 Sat, 01 Oct 2011 23:21:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-435 producer was doing more than simply dating her. producer was doing more than simply dating her.

]]> By: Gauling http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-364 Gauling Thu, 22 Sep 2011 05:28:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-364 Voyager has been vastly underrated by Star Trek fans for years. Visually, it was a stunning show. The production design was far superior to TNG or Deep Space. I have never been a fan of Herman Zimmerman's work on those shows. Richard James gave Voyager a new look that still impresses me when I watch Voyager. As far as the writing, Voyager hit its stride in season 4, much like TNG and Deep Space did. Ditching Kes was the second best thing the writers did. Her character was boring and going nowhere. The addition of Seven was the best thing the writers did. She brought conflict to the show. She brought humor to the show in the form of Jeri Ryan's deadpan delivery of her lines. And... well... that costume wasn't bad either. Go back and watch "The Year of Hell, parts I and II. It is perhaps the best two hours of Trek ever. Braga co-wrote that with Joe Menosky, I believe, and it's a damn fine piece of work. Who has the broadcast rights to Voyager and Deep Space nowadays? Both of these incarnations of Trek have been moldering away too long in somebody's vault. They both need re-discovering. Voyager has been vastly underrated by Star Trek fans for years. Visually, it was a stunning show. The production design was far superior to TNG or Deep Space. I have never been a fan of Herman Zimmerman’s work on those shows. Richard James gave Voyager a new look that still impresses me when I watch Voyager. As far as the writing, Voyager hit its stride in season 4, much like TNG and Deep Space did. Ditching Kes was the second best thing the writers did. Her character was boring and going nowhere. The addition of Seven was the best thing the writers did. She brought conflict to the show. She brought humor to the show in the form of Jeri Ryan’s deadpan delivery of her lines. And… well… that costume wasn’t bad either. Go back and watch “The Year of Hell, parts I and II. It is perhaps the best two hours of Trek ever. Braga co-wrote that with Joe Menosky, I believe, and it’s a damn fine piece of work. Who has the broadcast rights to Voyager and Deep Space nowadays? Both of these incarnations of Trek have been moldering away too long in somebody’s vault. They both need re-discovering.

]]> By: Mike DeLaney http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-360 Mike DeLaney Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:51:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-360 Yeah, and? If he had any part in casting, the point remains, doesn't it? Or do you think during her audition they were imagining putting her in a pant suit? Come on... Yeah, and?

If he had any part in casting, the point remains, doesn’t it?

Or do you think during her audition they were imagining putting her in a pant suit? Come on…

]]> By: Mike DeLaney http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-359 Mike DeLaney Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:49:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-359 I agree with that notion, that he did have some great things to offer to Star Trek. Wholly agree... and so did Gene Roddenberry. However, I think we can all agree that TNG got much better when he was no longer creatively involved. The franchise had moved beyond him. He had given it what he had and what it needed. Giving it more going forward would've been bad. The first 2 seasons of TNG really were entertaining, but not that great in retrospect when presented with all of Trek. And the issues with those first 2 seasons are almost entirely at Gene Roddenberry's feet. Does that mean Roddenberry should've never created Trek? Hardly. Nor does it mean that Voyager and the first couple seasons of Enterprise negate the great things Berman, Braga, and co brought to the franchise, but neither does it absolve them of the bad stuff... and unlike Gene Roddenberry, neither Berman nor Braga had the good sense to die (joking... maybe not die, how about just leave the franchise like Ron D. Moore did?). I agree with that notion, that he did have some great things to offer to Star Trek. Wholly agree… and so did Gene Roddenberry. However, I think we can all agree that TNG got much better when he was no longer creatively involved. The franchise had moved beyond him. He had given it what he had and what it needed. Giving it more going forward would’ve been bad. The first 2 seasons of TNG really were entertaining, but not that great in retrospect when presented with all of Trek. And the issues with those first 2 seasons are almost entirely at Gene Roddenberry’s feet. Does that mean Roddenberry should’ve never created Trek? Hardly. Nor does it mean that Voyager and the first couple seasons of Enterprise negate the great things Berman, Braga, and co brought to the franchise, but neither does it absolve them of the bad stuff… and unlike Gene Roddenberry, neither Berman nor Braga had the good sense to die (joking… maybe not die, how about just leave the franchise like Ron D. Moore did?).

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-356 Anonymous Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:33:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-356 I don't think Star Trek is worse off with Brannon Braga, but he shouldn't be allowed to run a Star Trek show because he's shown on most of his shows he is incapable of that - including his non Trek shows. HOWEVER, he is incredibly creative and came up with so many good story ideas and scripts for Trek. His contribution shouldn't be completely disregarded. I don’t think Star Trek is worse off with Brannon Braga, but he shouldn’t be allowed to run a Star Trek show because he’s shown on most of his shows he is incapable of that – including his non Trek shows.
HOWEVER, he is incredibly creative and came up with so many good story ideas and scripts for Trek. His contribution shouldn’t be completely disregarded.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-357 Anonymous Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:33:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-357 I don't think Star Trek is worse off with Brannon Braga, but he shouldn't be allowed to run a Star Trek show because he's shown on most of his shows he is incapable of that - including his non Trek shows. HOWEVER, he is incredibly creative and came up with so many good story ideas and scripts for Trek. His contribution shouldn't be completely disregarded. I don’t think Star Trek is worse off with Brannon Braga, but he shouldn’t be allowed to run a Star Trek show because he’s shown on most of his shows he is incapable of that – including his non Trek shows.
HOWEVER, he is incredibly creative and came up with so many good story ideas and scripts for Trek. His contribution shouldn’t be completely disregarded.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-354 Anonymous Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:31:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-354 Yeah, Seven of Nine was great but WHY oh WHY did you had to remove Kes instead of Harry/Neelix or even Chakotay? I think sfdebris put it really well in his Kes retrospective when he said replacing Kes with Seven of Nine was like "replacing a home theater system with a motorcycle. You haven't actually upgraded, you've just wound up replacing something with something different. You have something great but you've also lost something else you really liked". Also, seasons 4/5/6 had great writing when looking at the individual episodes but when you take a step back and look for some kind of cohesion or continuity, there is none to be found which is why it fails on an important level. Yeah, Seven of Nine was great but WHY oh WHY did you had to remove Kes instead of Harry/Neelix or even Chakotay?
I think sfdebris put it really well in his Kes retrospective when he said replacing Kes with Seven of Nine was like “replacing a home theater system with a motorcycle. You haven’t actually upgraded, you’ve just wound up replacing something with something different. You have something great but you’ve also lost something else you really liked”.

Also, seasons 4/5/6 had great writing when looking at the individual episodes but when you take a step back and look for some kind of cohesion or continuity, there is none to be found which is why it fails on an important level.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.trektoday.com/content/2011/09/braga-favorite-episodes-and-seven-of-nine/comment-page-1/#comment-355 Anonymous Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:31:00 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=12919#comment-355 Yeah, Seven of Nine was great but WHY oh WHY did you had to remove Kes instead of Harry/Neelix or even Chakotay? I think sfdebris put it really well in his Kes retrospective when he said replacing Kes with Seven of Nine was like "replacing a home theater system with a motorcycle. You haven't actually upgraded, you've just wound up replacing something with something different. You have something great but you've also lost something else you really liked". Also, seasons 4/5/6 had great writing when looking at the individual episodes but when you take a step back and look for some kind of cohesion or continuity, there is none to be found which is why it fails on an important level. Yeah, Seven of Nine was great but WHY oh WHY did you had to remove Kes instead of Harry/Neelix or even Chakotay?
I think sfdebris put it really well in his Kes retrospective when he said replacing Kes with Seven of Nine was like “replacing a home theater system with a motorcycle. You haven’t actually upgraded, you’ve just wound up replacing something with something different. You have something great but you’ve also lost something else you really liked”.

Also, seasons 4/5/6 had great writing when looking at the individual episodes but when you take a step back and look for some kind of cohesion or continuity, there is none to be found which is why it fails on an important level.

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